Of "Squee" and "Guh"
Mar. 17th, 2004 09:19 amor, More Mental Meanderings related to process
(top-of-the-head, pre-caffeinated mental wanderings ahead; you have been warned)
While the above subject line might lead one to think I was pondering the concept of feedback, in fact I am not. Though that might be a topic for another time (
gnomi files under "to ponder later"). Today I am wondering about vocabulary and the words/phrases that:
(a) have been created by fandom for fandom (and I'm talking not just about online or fanfic fandoms here. "Fanac," "SMOF," and "Fanzine" apply under these criteria)
and/or
(b) are used cross-fandom (see the subject line for two such examples)
I'd love to hear examples. I'm a sucker for neologisms.
(top-of-the-head, pre-caffeinated mental wanderings ahead; you have been warned)
While the above subject line might lead one to think I was pondering the concept of feedback, in fact I am not. Though that might be a topic for another time (
(a) have been created by fandom for fandom (and I'm talking not just about online or fanfic fandoms here. "Fanac," "SMOF," and "Fanzine" apply under these criteria)
and/or
(b) are used cross-fandom (see the subject line for two such examples)
I'd love to hear examples. I'm a sucker for neologisms.
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Date: 2004-03-17 07:00 am (UTC)and while we're on the subject of words, where did "squick" come from? i use it, and i've seen it in print, and apparently friends of mine from CSW were using it ten-ish years ago, but... yeah.
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Date: 2004-03-17 07:36 am (UTC)I first heard "squick" from friends of mine in the BDSM community (also back in the days when Usenet ruled the bandwidth) - a sexual activity that turns you off just to hear about it, possibly to the point of nausea. It was a natural to migrate to the more sexually explicit fanfiction genres.
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Date: 2004-03-17 07:41 am (UTC)I thought "squick" originated with alt.sex.bondage. I know that the official definition purports to involve an eye socket and a sound effect.
And -- CSW as in Cambridge School of Weston? Class of '87, here.
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Date: 2004-03-17 08:01 am (UTC)yes. class of '97.
yeah, the typo thing i've seen a lot of.
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Date: 2004-03-17 09:01 am (UTC)This is the earliest sighting I know about for the term.
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Date: 2004-03-17 11:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-03-17 12:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-03-17 07:43 am (UTC)As for adjective!proper noun construct, I first remember seeing it in Star Trek fandoms. My recollection is that it's from how field guides classify different species of bird, for example. So the angsty!Spock is related to but different from the angry!Spock, etc. And it became very popular in a number of fandoms.
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Date: 2004-03-17 08:37 am (UTC)I'm told there's a separate fannish definition of "glurge", minus its usual negative connotations. "beta reader" and "Mary Sue" seem to have originated in fanfic fandom and migrated outwards. Also "wank" seems to have a separate fannish definition, or at least a definition gaining wide currency in fandom which I'd not previously encountered.
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Date: 2004-03-17 12:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-03-17 12:29 pm (UTC)at fannish wank, (presumably but not, as far as I know, explicitly, derived from the meaning I already knew because such behavior is being likened to verbal masturbation.)
The meaning seemed to be roughly something like this:
To discuss something fannish in such a way as to either be or provoke a kerfuffle. (Kerfuffle in turn being defined as essentially a sometimes milder and more polite, or at least more passive-aggressive, version of the flame war as practiced by mostly-female online media fandom.)
To use it in a sentence: I'm interested in talking about the role of constructive critique in fanfiction, but by the time I saw the post the comments were already getting wanky, so I just backed away slowly.
Or: all [imaginary LJ user] does is make fun of the grudge match between [imaginary thing 1] and [imaginary thing 2]. I like bringing the wank as much as the next girl, but doesn't she ever get tired of shooting fish in a barrel?
See also, wanking, wankery, wanktastic, wankeriffic, etc.
Or possibly this is a totally usual definition, and I just live under a rock. :)
Mer
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Date: 2004-03-17 01:03 pm (UTC)PWP (porn without plot)
WAFF (warm and fuzzy feelings)(and its adjectival corrolary, WAFFy, as in "this fic is kinda WAFFy")
AU (alternate universe)
songfic
self-insertion (before fanfic, that just sounded... painful)
___verse (as in the Slayersverse, the Buffyverse...)
Sekkushuaru Roman (used by wannabe erotica writers to deny they were writing PWP, but I've never actually heard a Japanese native use it)
and the good ol'fashioned "slash"?
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Date: 2004-03-17 04:49 pm (UTC)Ones I've gotten used to:
Plot bunny (sometimes spelled as one word)
Shipping (as in not related to cargo)
Fanon
OTP
BNF
The immortal Mary Sue, of course, used as a noun and a verb--"She's a Mary Sue," "These guys will Sue anyone" (from
Suethor (recent use originating on Pottersues)